Every day we get closer to an Orwellian society. The United Kingdom may already be one.
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https://chng.it/YtL2XwbwBc There is already a petition. I’m posting it here.
Share the good work!
The EU is using genocide censorship as an excuse to abort all “freedom” laws. A hillarious twist.
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No. This is a very naive & dated way of thinking about the world of today. We don’t really have distinct borders distinguishing politicians at that level.
It’s more accurate to say the Davos group is ruling all western nations. What looks like separate world leaders and parties is actually one world-spanning organization of those with power. And what’s worse, they’re all Nazis and technocrats.
The Nazis learned from WW2. If you invade a country, the people fight back. If you groom and install/bribe your own people into leadership positions, the people just let it happen.
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They don’t need their own tech companies. Europe has its own oligarchs. They’re the problem.
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I’m not going to defend the US and it’s tech oligarchs, they are all shit, but the way things are going, the EU and the UK are currently in way worse shape than the US in terms of all this 1984 bullshit.
No country is safe from this anymore, and we may very well be looking at the worse time to be alive when it comes to privacy, regardless of where you live.
I highly doubt it’s the worse time. There used to be no concept of privacy you lived in a small town everyone knew everything and you lived in a one room house and familys had on bed for everything. There would have been no privacy at all.
You do make a good point. However, consider the fact that you could talk with your wife, kids, friends or anyone for that matter, and the only way someone else would find out was if one of the parties involved told someone else or if you were too loud for someone else to listen. Now we have to go fully out of our way to keep anything under wraps, and even then, there’s no guarantee that nobody else knows.
I firmly believe this is the worst the world has ever been for privacy and individualism, and everything points to that everything is going to be worse moving forward.
Additionally, it’s highly that any of us lived through those times you mentioned, so I’m speaking from my own life experience, and I’m over half a century old.
That’s an opinion lol
We deff have it better now with corpo and goverment replacing family and the hood
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Enjoy it. I’m honestly happy to read this. My country has the bad habit of copying all the crappy shit from the US, and none of the good
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I’m starting to think you’re Dominican too 🤣
As a US citizen, pray for us 🙏
The olygarch’s have ruined everything again?
The tree of freedom must periodically be watered with the blood of tyrants.
Also the problem with wealth. No more overthrowing the rich happening.
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For the age verification is it possible to sign a petition? I think is not too late to join forces… or anything but not letting them go further… as of the chat control probably only contacting the representatives. I really hope lawyers and businessmen try to fight it…
The UK ain’t part of the EU mate
It’s worse in Germany.
Not officially, but the same powerful monied interests control both.
France is doing the exact same shit as the UK with age verification…
Not any more 😭
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Have you already written to your members of parliament about chat control, and possibly other matters? Seriously, do it. There is very little you can do, but this might actually help. Slightly. Maybe.
The UK is owned by a different country. That country is Italy, where the Roman Catholic Church resides. Any Catholic-owned platform will shut down anything that goes against the RCC, or at best, they’ll just minimize the reach for those who have some things to say against the Jesuits and Catholic leadership.
That’s from what my producer, Neigsendoig, researched.
Old enough to remember how Europeans smugly thought that they lived in some sort of an enlightened and free society.
Now do Russia and and china
No one in those countries believes that they live in a free, enlightened society…
But the west always portrayed otself in such a light… Now everyone knows their politics are just as ugly as Chinas, Irans or Russias politics.
I don’t see anyone in US LARPing freedom bullshit since at least covid lol
Well besides regime whores on tv… But that’s a different story
But in us unlike china or russia, shit posters don’t get charges or at least not nearly as much for saying stupid shit online. People in russia peope get prison for being anti war.
A friend of mine travelled to China, to talk about politics with locals they used his phone because they were afraid of their govt listening in. So yeah maybe the EU/US ain’t so bad.
lmfao people literally get arrested for social media posts in UK and Germany
It can happen in the US too… My comment above touches on this fact.
In china and russia people get disappeared in regular course of business.
My comment likewise touches on the fact that people living under western regimes are disappeared in regular course of business. In fact, there’s far more evidence for people disappearing without any reasonable grounds in the west than there are in China.
If this was true, half of Lemmy would be in Gitmo already
Does china have a place like reddit or fediverse?
Link it up!
Having supposed freedumbs is literally what y’all have been braying made the West different from Russia and China.
So where is the distinction then
The distinction with China is in actual human rights like people being able to afford housing, food, and education. People not having to worry about losing their job and ending up on the street or being able to retire in dignity.
Is this thread about the rising fascist movements? Oh…
Is it about the refugees from their colonies they drown in the Mediterranean? Oh…
Well is it about the pivot from renewables and nuclear to oil and gas? Wh… well what is…
Oh. This is a thread about your online treats.
#1 on lemmy ‘top in last 12 hours’
you are saying that as if all (or any) of those would have started to be a problem just in the last 12 hours…
and this is not about “online treats”, but online threats. It’s not just netflix, amazon and other silly unnecessary things, it’s everything, including every forum where people can organize and discuss things, fucking youtube with their tons of knowledge based content, …
but sure! we have 4 other problems, count climate change too, that’s 5, we really should just ignore this one because it’s literally meaningless!
You’re right! I forgot about the genocide your governments are enabling!
I am not aware of any western country that isn’t a police state.
The reason the police state gets worse and worse is simply that our glouriouss western countries shift closer and closer to fascism every day.
Unfortunately that doesn’t only impact privacy but also stuff like state repression or presence of state thugs.
To quote very smart people:
I hope for a revolution, but as for my country (Italy), too many people have been brainwashed by mainstream media’s pro-European and Atlanticist propaganda. We call them “euroinomani” (“euro “drug” addicts”)
I do agree. But calling the UK Orwellian is kind of funny, given Orwell’s 1984 is largely, if not mostly, based on the UK:
As well as cultural changes in the 80s-90s, I think people don’t quite realise how much the internet ‘escaped’ the grasp of governments for the past few decades. By constantly banging the drum of “what about the children D:”, governments are finally just catching up to where we used to be.
Surpassing where we used to be in that regard as in the mean time they have been busy locking down controls over other facets of society.
As an American it’s nice to see were not the only ones in a complete downward spiral.
EDIT: wild that there are users pretending to be butthurt by this obviously joke comment so they can farm upvotes from the tens of users on Lemmy
It’s nice to see that the rest of the world is just as bad as U.S.
Nice? I wish it was just the US so getting to another country would make it safe for us. This is awful.
As an American, no it’s not nice. Why would I want more of this shit elsewhere?
Also, Americans are subject to supporting this bullshit. If any company in the us (or in the world really) owns or maintains data that the EU qualifies as adult-oriented, they have to either maintain a means of actively prevent EU users or support the filtering and tracking that the EU mandates. If not, they can be fined by the EU, and as long as there is a financial relationship between the us and EU, the fines will be enforced.
This has global impact.
I’m curious if more companies will move their hosting to countries that are non compliant with EU regulations and move to accepting payment from cryptocurrency only. I would not be surprised if x-rated content providers were to move to such places.
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Wishing ill on people, eh?
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Thanks, but you’re a tad late
Orwell never could have imagined society as it exists currently.
We are living in Orwellian society, it’s just the news catching up with reality.
The news has been trying to obfuscate this awareness for as long as possible.
It has been effective but every day more people take notice.
how will this “client side scanning” be implemented?
it’s, not only worrying, but very confusing.