Everyone from janitors to the Geek Squad could be forced to help the NSA spy — and Democrats barely put up a fight.
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That’s always been the problem with surveillance, but these twats never seemed to realize it when they brought it up. How fucking stupid can you be before you just forget to breathe for an hour or two?
oh they realize, they just don’t care
It’ll never abused nor fall on the wrong hands. Never. And then it does and they act like nobody could foresee that happening. It’s infuriating.
All the data collection going on, it’ll backfire spectacularly eventually.
If what Trump is going to do with the surveillance powers is exactly what it was intended the president could do with them, is it really misuse?
In software engineering, we call this “works as designed.”
Yes it sucks more that Trump specifically will weild them. But the real problem is that the office of the presidency has these powers. Not specifically which president had them.
I think non-software people call this getting their face eaten by leopards.
Our “left”-centre government party here in Germany is still trying to pass the next version of a surveillance bill, which has been struck down multiple times for being unconstitutional over the years. All the while, it is getting more and more likely that we will have our own neo-nazis in power next year.
It is amazing you don’t see it is all an act to pass and divide the blame
wym neo, west germany never got rid of the og nazis in the first place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger
Yeah, I think a good approach to any type of government powers is considering that future presidents/parties you don’t like will also have access to these powers.
I would absolutely love it if the threat of the future Trumps is a limiting factor on government overreach.
Not really a trump thing, as much as I despise the guy, the article says Biden pushed for this.
It’s a bad bill and shouldn’t be legal. The NSA already has so much power.
Privacy is a basic human right.
Subset of the right to be left the fuck alone if a human desires it.
Tell my landed lord.
Good luck explaining that to the “I got nothing to hide” crowd…
All Americans who have ever used the internet have violations of the CFAA, since website TOS violations are legally as criminal as hacking NORAD (the CFAA was passed after Reagan saw wargames ) normally letting your twelve-year-old start a Facebook account gets you 25 years, if some prosecutor wanted to enforce it. And they think that’s ridiculous and don’t.
However, if that prosecutor wants to turn a five month sentence into a ten year sentence, then the suspect’s CFAA violation history might be useful after all.
And that is just one of the laws that overreaches and is easily broken and not usually enforced.
Suddenly you may have something to hide after all, say if they’re rounding up gay felons and any petty felony would make your gay ass qualify. (The German SD and US ICE both ignore violent felon requirements when they’re rounding up folk to be detained and deported)
@uriel238 @pivot_root Not all TOS violations are relevant at all the CFAA, and very few are after the significant narrowing of the CFAA by the Supreme Court in 2021 in Van Buren v United States.
Yes! That was a vast improvement. It’s not the only way that Americans are felons if the state needs to decide they are, or if they need to add charges / sentencing considerations if the prosecutors really want to throw away the key, such as embarrassing VIPs or killing rich people.
Still, you don’t want the police looking at your entire internet history, even if you believe you have nothing to hide, they will find things that they find objectionable enough to justify treating you roughly.
If you got nothing to hide, what’s your credit card number?
8742 6689 0420 8832
Jokes aside, that might work. I’ll try it next time.
Afaik there is no company that starts their cards with 8, so I doubt it’ll work.
3 - AE
4 - Visa
5 - MC
6 - Discover
1 is used for airline cards iirc.
the new surveillance power we currently have was abused by Bush Jr, Obama (who made it more invasive), Trump, Biden, and now Trump again.
Follow the constitution you fuckers! No more spying without a warrant!
The President has too much fscking power and civil liberty people have been shouting about it for more than 20 years now.
But expanding executive power helps break legislative gridlock! It’s not like Americans will ever elect an unhinged criminal lunatic to the Presidency.
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How did all these laws Trump can abuse on day one get on the books, I wonder? They should find the guys responsible for passing them in whatever organism they used to discuss them
Exactly. Biden pushed for the bill.
Properly worded headline: Top Senator Warns Sweeping New Surveillance Powers Will “Inevitably Be Misused” by us
Yeah, let’s not pretend this isn’t absolutely a class issue. Snowden, Assange, and Manning happened under Obama. This is an “us” vs the “elites” Trump is just a convenient excuse for the next democrat to abuse these same powers and be like “well Trump was doing it”
Edit: if you don’t think the Biden administration isn’t doing the same thing right now to protect our precious “Healthcare” CEOs from another “getting even” attempt you are sadly mistaken
This right here ppl. Read it and dont say u werent warned
No one is saying that.
Probably not by the Useful Idiot, but certainly by his puppeteers.
Just trump?
Oh boy, theres soon gonna be people even worse than trump.
Here is my shocked pikachu face. 😱