I’m impressed at how obvious of a lie this is and how hard they’re trying to do mental gymnastics to justify their argument.

Where is the lie? They don’t sell your data. That’s not how they operate. In fact, they want to keep your data as secure as possible so no one else can use it.

They build models from user data and basically sell those models to businesses. Models that can be used to manipulate behavior and distort reality.

Data brokers, on the other hand…they sell your data.

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ToS never works. Libre software does.

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You’re preaching to the choir

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They’re still crying over ToS.

Surveillance advertising is a crime, period

https://www.zzzuckerberg.com/

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So, they’re not lying. This is what they do. Meta is not in the business of selling (or leasing, like the other commenter said) your data. They are in the business of holding your data, so they can agregate it together and sell anonymous targeting. Same with Google and Apple. Plenty of reasons to dislike this, but that doesn’t make it a lie.

they don’t sell your data. advertisers just pick out the target audience and meta places the ads for them. This is the way google and meta have been doing ads for a while. Actually selling your data is illegal.

They still use your data to push ads so it’s a violation of privacy. Just wanna get the facts straight.

Unless there’s been some leak recently I’m unaware of?

They sell to brokers, who then sell to whomever.

Then also, chrome and firefox have recently gotten the option to track you offline and just pass that info directly to websites.

Here some info about how much and what kind of user data is being sold (GPS position,…), and the legality of it all.

I don’t need to read some German blog to know that a company with a long history of sketchy behavior is sketchy. They’ve gotten on the news with their behavior plenty of times.

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I don’t believe meta sells to brokers.

All we know is that they’re an advertising business. For all we know they use most of it for themselves

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It’s just deceptive wording. I think most people would view “selling our decisions based on your data” as “selling your data”.

To be fair they’re not actually lying, they are misrepresenting the truth. Facebook actually doesn’t sell your data to third parties because they lease temporary access to it instead. Selling the data would mean they couldn’t recapitalize it with the same customers.

Meta’s customers couldn’t use it to skip doing their own market research and need to already know who they want to advertise to before they buy ads with Facebook. (It does provide insights and analytics about demographics during a campaign as well)

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Blind, cant read pic.

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bro, just feel the letters.

Blind people can’t feel you idiot

Wtf is wrong with you?

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lol, what? thought they’d find it funny.

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My apologies. I will update it to have an accessible version.

Edit: accessible transcription has been added

How did you do that?

I’m using the voyager client on android. There’s an option when you make/edit a post to add an accessible caption.

I use Voyager too. I’ll take a look for that setting. Thanks

Essentially they claim they don’t sell data. They say instead they process it in house and just have advertisers indicate a certain desired profile and then yhey show the ads, without transferring info

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If that’s true, sure. Then they’d not be selling data but profiting off it.

Because everybody’s totally going to believe that. LOL.

Selling it would be bad business. By just offering ad targeting to their customers, the customers keep coming back. Once they sell it the customer doesn’t need them anymore. (used to work in an advertising-based internet business. This is how it’s done.)

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