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To be honest I can’t say I blame you; It’s absolutely impossible to get people to move away from a platform without a hard reason.
It’s absurd how often people in general are simply afraid to simply read their screen and try new things on a device.
Just send them the app url and let them know you do private chats on a private messenger. Show them all the fun stuff like stickers, GIFS, groups, stories, etc. Save the delete messages stuff for later.
I also tried to make my friends use signal or anything that respects privacy, but it was almost impossible. They were used to their platform which is instagram or discord, and they didnt want to move since they had no reason except privacy, which is not their major problem.
I hope one day, that we have a viable protocol like email that will free everybody from vendor lock-in into messaging apps. Allowing us to chose our platform freely.
Unfortunately, I don’t think Matrix is there yet
I bridge WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal and Slack using Matrix.
Works extremely well for me.
You may want to give this a quick read before using signal
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html
I personally haven’t verified the claims on there but I’ve been using a personal instance of Matrix for a while now and it’s been working great.
This is straight up misinformation about Signal. The internet was made in part by the US government, so was Tor. You don’t avoid using those, and it’s very public knowledge that they were created with help from the feds.
I know not everyone is willing to do this, but I just made myself unreachable elsewhere and many started using signal for that reason.
Good thing you happened to be popular then. It’s akin to self-ostracizing for most, especially young people.
What other option is there? If you can’t convince them yourself, it’s not like the internet has some magic bullet for making them switch to another app.
The only choice most people have is between being an outcast, and sucking it up and using whatever everyone else is using. Some people are natural trend-setters, most are followers and there are those who want to do things for good reasons rather than copying everyone else. That last group of people have an uphill battle because their lifestyle requires thought and deliberation, which is something most people aren’t willing to do, sadly.
A few years ago I got 5 of my millennial friends to move from FB Messenger to Telegram and it took some peer pressure from me and essentially one hangout where we were all together, and moved in one go. Telegram is not perfect but overall it’s much better than being on FB messenger.
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Holy heck, it almost seems like there is some counter-intel op against Signal going on here by the powers that be that doesn’t want you to use it because of its encryption (see? even I can make conspiracy theories like this). Now let me copy-paste one of my earlier posts:
by force if necessary
Instructions unclear, currently in jail for kidnapping and aggravated assault
Don’t have an answer but sharing in your pain as a millennial. 😭
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I can hear the, “But I already have Facebook!” echoing in the halls.
Speaking as someone a bit older, I’ve got an ICQ account, an AIM account, an Apple ID, a Google ID, a few handles on IRC, as well as a Signal account and a Lemmy ID. Never signed up for Facebook, Instagram, SnapChat, Tiktok, etc. because I actually read their license agreements and privacy policies and in some cases had actual human interactions with some of the owners.
Having said all that, just do you. If you drift away from some of your friends because they’re unwilling to interact with you away from their established online media platform, that’s not the end of the world; it just frees you up for more worthwhile relationships and activities.