I wonder how many people using discord have this enabled by default. Pretty sure Krisp records everything you say and uses your voice to train ai models. Not that it’s a big deal since everything on discord is completely insecure and not private at all.
I’d like to ditch discord but there’s no way I can convince people to leave it, there’s really nothing as easy out there right now. They’ll put up with the enshittification until it’s ads plastered all over the screen.
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Meet people where they are to make change
I make change by refusing to be complicit.
This all or nothing “complicit” knowledge is great for personal purity testing and useless for moving the needle. You don’t need to bring someone 100% into alignment with your views, you just need them to stop supporting one kind of harm or start supporting one helpful position (which will be diff for each person)
That’s fine if you’re Stallman, but it’s not very practical if you want to actively encourage others to participate rather than just being an example and trying to preach to them.
If I have to be complicit in order to encourage others not to be complicit, then what’s the point?
To establish commonality. It’s important to take precautions of course, but if you do not have shared experience and can confidently explain how the shortcomings you witness apply to your friends “stuck” on a platform (and what your proposed answers are), you are unlikely to change minds, because you are unable to reach the target audience. Also, there are ways to change the experience that can allow one to be a participant but not complicit to the entire ecosystem, such as using a modified client, using bots to allow bridging to/from other applications, or restricting permissions for the official client.
That’s the frustrating part about change - it’s not convenient. To get people to change, you need to justify that disruption, and without meeting people where they are, you will never get the chance to make your case.
Every time I’ve tried they’ve made it abundantly clear that, like most people, they don’t care.