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Attached: 1 image ❓ Do you know who are the inventors of the hardware-level kill switch for smartphones?   🤫 Stay tuned! We’re teaming up with them to offer you more privacy. 👇 Share your ideas in the comments! #Privacy @gael @rikviergever @e_mydata

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🤫 Stay tuned! We’re teaming up with them to offer you more privacy.

👇 Share your ideas in the comments! "

@utopiah@lemmy.ml
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auto delete all the telemetry /e/ collects by default, including the Voice data Sent to OpenAI?

You are back with your FUD. I don’t know what you have against /e/OS specifically or if you are genuinely paranoid but in this specific instance you are making stuff up! I clarified in https://lemmy.ml/post/35472063 so maybe a language barrier because the post you linked to was in French but the STT service is

  • NOT on by default
  • for paying customers only (0 chance that a random person would activate it and thus be shocked)
  • tries to anonymize the data

So… that’s not even telemetry, that’s like activating a service which the company explicitly said relied on OpenAI in the first place, people STILL paid for it AND activated it. They can’t be surprised that it’s sending anything to OpenAI then.

Come on, help us make this community better. We have enough problems with BigTech, small tech and more that we do NOT need to invent problems!

PS: also the reasoning about the presence on kill switch is … just plain silly. The PinePhones are running Linux, no Android, no /e/OS/ or whoever actor you might dislikes, OSes built by others, e.g. PmOS, Ubuntu, etc and yet still have hardware kill switches.

@solrize@lemmy.ml
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Not commenting on the other stuff but people should get used to the fact that anonymized private data is still private, so a so-called privacy app should not be leaking or disclosing or selling it. It might be LESS invasive than personally identifiable data, but it’s not NON-invasive.

Who is willing to pay for it after all? Almost certainly, someone who is up to no good. And if you can think of a way it can possibly be misused, then enabling that misuse is invasive.

@utopiah@lemmy.ml
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I’ll preface my answer to clarify that I’m against surveillance capitalism and privacy Zuckering. I say that in the open, do not use Google services, Amazon, have my own PeerTube instance, IoT at home is HomeAssistant with ZigBee, etc. So my goal here is NOT to cut some slack to anyone.

I started with this because I’m not actually sure what you are referring to. Since my initial comment is about Murena STT I’ll assume it’s that but if not please correct me. This specific service… is not a compromise I would accept. So I’m in NO way advocating for me. The only thing I’m clarifying is that this service is not something one can “stumble upon” and enable without paying attention. That’s why I put such recurring emphasis on it. It’s not coherent with “sharing all data” or imagining a scenario where somebody buys an /e/OS phone Murena and somehow ending up getting their data leaked (due to the potentially imperfect anonymization) to OpenAI. One has to activate it and to do so one must be a Murena services paying customer. This is not the case when “just” installing /e/OS. So once again I’m not saying Murena is perfect, not even that it did the right choice (according to my own privacy preferences) my relying on OpenAI, and yet that problem is not relevant to most people who use /e/OS.

To make a quick a analogy it’s like installing WhatsApp on a privacy OS phone. Sure you technically can do that but if you do and complain about how Meta is collecting your data then you did it on yourself, you can’t blame the OS developers.

Luffy
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You are back with your Spam

NOT on by default

This is a Private OS. They should not have this integration, since there are more than enough FOSS alternatives.

for paying customers only

Dosent change my point.

tries to anonymize the data

Tries. Tries. Tries.

They claim to be private. They incorporate a non private Service even though there are valid alternatives. Thats where this discussion starts and ends.

Graphene literally ships with the play store and services. That’s worse

Luffy
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It does not.

You can install a Sandboxed Version of it, but not more

back with your Spam

Try it, report me for spam to the mods I’d be curious to hear their opinion.

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