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reality — an open, secure, de-Googled system is not open, not secure, and not a de-Googled system!? This is just a new anøm disguised as open source. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tor nodes in Advanced Privacy are routed through servers controlled by Murena. I trust /e/ Foundation OS and the Murena company less and less P.S. Regarding ‘anøm’ it was a joke—or maybe not. We’ll see if (or when) the authorities come knocking at our doors

First of all, to anyone downvoting my Comments about /e/ being a piece of shit, because…

  • they advertise themselves as degoogled, but instead let you connect to Google/Microsoft/etc services

  • replace all the propriatery not at all Secure Services from Google, with… Drumroll please… Propriatery and not at all Secure Services from themselves and actively encourage it.

  • They are For-profit

  • and being MORE out of date then even Fairphones stock roms.

… I told you so. Dm your Instance admin, pay them to send the DB entries of your Downvotes on a Thumb drive (or anything else from SSD to 3.5 inchHDD, depending on your preferences), and shove it up your rectum.

But a TL;DR:

/E/ is not Private. They just switch one bad comany to another one.

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No tldr… I am just going off my memory as a shit poster

But to address your core request.

The degoogle privacy community has a running arguement regarding what’s the best way to degoogle for privacy

Currently there are two options microg which spoofs GPS but still does some connections ie calyxOs approach among other RPMs

OR

Sandboxed GPS ie GrapheneOS approach. Where you just run the apps but gos limits what gps can track. You do need a Google account but it is easy to get a dummy.

As side note the best is gos with NO sandboxed gps but realistically normies joining the movement need GPS capabilities.

Either one is better than normie phone but if you care about privacy AND security, gos is king.

The improvements they made to android even gets upstreamed by Google creeps.

CalyxOS development is spotty. Obviously I support them two, extra options are good and they cover more phones.

Gos only does pixel, which is problematic but that’s just what can be done currently.

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Minor nit: you don’t need a Google account even with GPS. I have sandboxed GPS without an account and use aurora store for things I can’t get via obtanium/F-droid.

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This used to work for me but then they started forcing the play store too and account which then required an account. So I just stopped using GPS all together.

But thank you for pointing just goes to show experience can be different and people should play around for their set up.

For me now it is an ideological battle. Fuck Google

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I didn’t want gps either but too many apps I rely on need it. Soooo took the path of least resistance in that case with a non logged in GPS on GrapheneOS. Its a shame it’s tradeoffs all the time with things like this

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Ah I see, thanks! It’s really sad that ROM hardware support is so limited these days. I’d really love to run Graphene on S25 hardware :(

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LineageOS covers a lot of devices but I can NOT recommend in good faith as a personal phone decide.

It is made in some weird development mode and can’t lock the bootloader.

Both of these make very insecure if you lose physical control. It is a decent degoogle.

Sammy is going anti ROM and will prevent people from unlocking Bootloader going forward it seems.

On personal level, I would advise against focusing on hard ware. I used to be a hardware whore myself. But in 2025 privacy/security should be the defining factor in cell phone decision. I can’t think of anything more personal.

This is the BEST write up I have ever seen on the topic. Had no idea it was out there and explained a lot about the inner workings for security I wasn’t expecting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LineageOS/comments/n7yo7u/a_discussion_about_bootloader_lockingunlocking/

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