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His defense of his stance is pretty weak as well, imho.
It feels like it would be a bit like IBM working with Hitler and saying “well he’s right on this one specific policy issue.”
The idea that he honestly thinks Trump is fighting for anyones rights betrays what must be ulterior motives.
While there are other good people on the board, it is going to be hard to get this taint off of Proton.
Reposting some links from a thread two days ago about his response on Reddit.
I thought this comment (and the thread below it…and the lack of any reply to it despite the CEO being all over the thread elsewhere) was pretty telling.
It’s much less of a strong tell, but is slightly concerning that he’s picked up language like “triggered”. As comments there say, his excuse of not being in-tune with American politics could be real, but are also possibly just plausible deniability, because he may have picked up on that language by hanging out online with fascists.
It’s also worth noting that technically his username is “andy88” (1011000 is 88 in binary) which while that’s likely his birth year, is still something you would hope someone from Switzerland of all places would recognize it as a Nazi dogwhistle and in poor taste for a username.
He might be able to hide behind not being familiar with US culture, but he cannot hide behind not being familiar with Nazi culture.
At a certain point, it stops being just coincidences.
I posted the same in another thread, but it’s also likely because it’s considered a lucky number to the Chinese.
Yeah the swiss never had any issues with knowing Nazi culture. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Makes me question whether he’s going to secretly start logging certain activists. I’m not implying he is, but praising a known fascist with autocratic aspirations doesn’t make me feel good in the context of privacy.
https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-address-of-french-activist-after-order-by-swiss-authorities/
Already happening.
I’m aware of that case. Since then, they haven’t claimed to have totally private email, but they were able to do that partly because of how email works, and back then, they only did it because they were bound by law. Their VPN works differently, due to storing any log data only in memory and only temporarily (i.e. nothing is written to disk). That’s not what I’m referring to.
When I say I’m concerned, I’m referring to actions like changing that no-log policy on their VPN without telling anyone.
You are pretty naive about their ability and willingness to tell anyone especially after all the bad press they got for the case above. They don’t have a warrant canary and their excuse why not only applies to Swiss citizens.
What is their excuse? I haven’t heard it.
And you’re entitled to your opinion and to be more suspicious. I’m not really interested in making cynical guesses upon the mere possibility that I might be right someday.
I’m not a customer of theirs, so I don’t have much care what he says except for what it means for people who use Proton and for privacy in general.
“Hitler banned smoking and has animal cruelty laws, so we’re going to overlook his human cruelty as long as the bills get paid” – IBM, probably
“As the owner of an asphalt company, I think this new Reichskanzler’s autobahn-building initiative is fantastic!”