edit: thank you all for your replies! They are all very helpful. I am reading through them and will ask follow-up questions if needed.

I made a post some days ago asking about LineageOS, but my curiosity towards Google Pixels and GrapheneOS has been growing. As somebody who has always used regular Samsungs and iPhones, I hope somebody can clear up some questions I have regarding this OS.

I plan that my next phone is to be either a Motorola (LineageOS/SailfishOS?) or a Pixel (GrapheneOS). My first question about GrapheneOS, or really any non-standard OS, is this:

  • how does having an account on the device work? For example, Samsungs require a Samsung account and iPhones require an iCloud account. How does it work on non-standard OSes?

My second question touches on built-in apps that you often get with every phone:

  • does GrapheneOS have its own Notes/Drive/Photos/Messages app? If not, how does one go about obtaining these? Related question:
  • how do I sync my notes/photos/files/etc to the “cloud” of GrapheneOS?

My third question regards the app store of GrapheneOS. I have heard that the sandboxed Play Store is better than FDroid, for instance; what are your thoughts? Do I go for Aurora Store instead? Is there any major difference at all? Is it possible to use multiple app stores?

  • note that I likely won’t be solely relying on FDroid since I need some non-FOSS apps (FB Messenger for contacting family for example).

I know that in the privacy community, it’s very common to fix up a cloud of your own (i.e. NextCloud). I have no experience doing this, but is it something I must do when I install atypical OSes? Then comes the question about pricing, how private and secure it really is, which one to choose… and so on.

I understand many of these questions will sound stupid to those who are experienced, but I have not been part of this community very long. Feel free to link any educational videos or articles that answer my questions. I hope to learn more about this subject and one day installing a more secure system on my phone. Cheers!

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Hi! Thank you so much for the all the links, I really appreciate it. And thank you for introducing me to both Filen and Cryptee. Regarding Filen, I have a question. It says the price for lifetime starter is €30, but are there any other lifetime options (such as for the pro plans) that offer more storage?

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I’m not entirely sure. I’m still using the free tier. A bit hypocritical for me to say that payment is polite, I know; but I do tend to use USB drives more than the cloud.

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Do you know how Filen compares to Nextcloud or Syncthing? It’s definitely confusing to try to navigate in this huge technical world and know what service is the best haha

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Essentially:

  • Filen - Server in Germany, run by Filen. Has clients for Windows, macOS, Linux (both x86_64 and arm64), iOS, and Android; but not BSD or ChromeOS. You get 10 GB for free.
  • Nextcloud - Server wherever you want, as you host it yourself. Has clients for most platforms, including Android, and also supports WebDAV. Everything is on your terms. Also comes with things like a calendar, a notes app, and ActivityPub (I think). You can run NextCloud on a Raspberry Pi under your desk for cheap.
  • Syncthing - No server and no account, as it is strictly peer-to-peer. Has clients for Windows, macOS, Linux, BSD, illumos, Solaris, and Android; and there’s an unofficial client for iOS (Möbius Sync). Devices must be on the same network to sync (although there’s probably a way of getting it working globally). Totally free to use.

I use Filen because I only have one Raspberry Pi (which is in use), so Nextcloud isn’t a viable option; and I had trouble getting Syncthing to work.

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