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I‘m talking about apps like discord or whatsapp that have a lot of info on you when you open them. The open source clients are a lot less data hungry afaik.

But yes, the encryption between the apps is not seamless so you‘d need to activate encryption again for this if you want it.

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I dont know where you got that info from but afaik the most data collection is automated and does not include manually sifting through stuff. Having a discord bot does not give discord the info from a persons matrix account. Its the persons decision if they want to name the matrix account the same (which they shouldnt).

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Well, I‘m not a security professional but an admin. Keeping people out of your matrix chats isnt that hard if you follow some standard procedure.

Sending 1000 texts to discord through matrix is a lot different than having 1000 texts and all photos, geo coding, contacts and microphone accessible.

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Thats what I meant. The admin is the person that most always has your data but data breaches are other people getting in which is not that hard to prevent. You dont have to run faster than the bear… just faster than the guy next to you.

For signal we assume that native connections are e2ee, for whatsapp I‘m less sure thats really the case and for discord we know that nothing is encrypted.

So yes, if someone got into the server and started poking around undetected, one might have their signal texts laid bare. I‘m pretty sure the likelyhood isnt as high as a phone getting hacked, especially for small servers that are obscure.

In any case, you do you.

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